Ii
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Post by Ii on Mar 2, 2011 16:54:04 GMT 9
In the Canton of Golden Playne, I am setting myself a project to make a round pavilion for the Canton. This will be a single pole round pavilion, held by guy wires (vice spokes). I'm hoping to make something that will be easy to store and transport. Some of the websites with good information are as follows: Building a Plausibly Medieval Pavilion -- I particularly like this page and their King Rene attempt, though I'm not thrilled with their particular color choice. I also love that they have a link to an extant pavilion from some time before 1655. They also have links to many other sources and articles. House Greydragon's Pavilion Page -- House Greydragon also has some great pictures and links. They seem to prefer the hub and spoke pavilino, details for which they link to an article in The Oak, Atlantia's A&S publication. Max and Mikel's Easy, No-Bake Pavilion -- This is a great page for some ideas on simple pavilion construction. I'll definitely be considering some of these tricks as we put ours together! How about anyone else out there? Have you built a pavilion? How did you do it and how did it turn out? Abe and I had a previous experience attempting to convert a portable carpark into a Japanese style pavilion with some success (though it was really bulky and heavy). -Ii
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adam
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Post by adam on Mar 2, 2011 18:00:41 GMT 9
Okay, I wouldn't call what I built in the past as a "pavilion" per-say, however I did build a really nice, easily transportable and economical "sun-shade."
I simply bought the biggest canvas painters cloth I could get. (I think it was 20x20) then I bought a grommet setting kit and put grommet holes in the corners, and at the mid points.
Once that was done, I began to work on the poles and ropes. I used simple closet rods in different lengths. (8 ft for the corners and sides, and 10 ft for the peak poles. Like wooden dowels except 1" in diameter.)
I also used a drill and inserted some metal rods into the ends of the poles that will support the canvas.
So, with the canvas in a fly state, I then roped over the metal rods (which helped to hold the fly down) and ran them to stakes in the ground.
In order to make the whole thing easy to transport, I created a sleeve like arrangement with the poles. This was done with simple metal tubing and some pins. Make sure and make the sleeves very long in order to provide good support to the poles.
Poles, ropes, and canvas would fit very easily into the trunk of my then Ford Taurus.
I transfered over here before I had a chance to decorate with dags or anything, but it's still on the project list for when I return.
Lord Edom sendss....
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Post by Siobhan on Mar 4, 2011 11:06:49 GMT 9
Making a group pavillion is a great idea. Keep in mind that it needs to be big enough to shelter everyone but small enough to store and transport by a very different person than the maker some years down the road.
Most fabric is not water proof and will not stand up to wind well. Painter's cloth is cheap, resists rain and wind and is easy to replace.
One thing to consider is buying a commercially made roof (like from Panther Pavillions) then make your own poles from closet rod. Then, using a piece of 12 X 15 painters cloth, make sides. If you cut the painter's cloth in half so you have 2 12X7.5 bits, you can make a re-enforced seam on them and add grommets for the bottom (you want to 'wing' these sides out) and clips for a "BC" like sides (see pics of Flieg's pavillion in most WK photos. YOu can get Panther to put D rings along the edges of the roof theymake for you so you can clip the sides you've made to it.
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Ii
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Post by Ii on Mar 4, 2011 13:07:06 GMT 9
We aren't worried about sheltering the Canton--this initial project is less something to hold court under and more something that can be used to increase the atmosphere, provide changing rooms, and possibly store armor; we don't have anyone who could store something bigger, yet. For us, cost is another factor. We can get canvas cheap, and both paint and waterproof as necessary. Cost breakdown looks like it will come in at around $200USD, maybe slightly more; probably slightly less. I don't think we can beat that (or afford much more at this point). Besides, this is the land of sala I fully expect that most places we go will have some sort of shade for people to watch from, and when it rains around here you want to be indoors--flooding is a major issue, so it doesn't matter if you are keeping the rain out above if everything is flooded from below! I also think it will be a good project to get people involved and see what else they could do. I suspect one of our members is thinking about making barriers to fight over (and hopefully a list field to fight in, as well!) -Ii
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